in this interview with journalist bob woodward, former defense secretary donald rumseld compares the worsening situation in the war zone of irak to the ordinary incidents of crime in any large metropolis. can't imagine why they edited out the profound reasoning which was to follow, can you?
MR. WOODWARD: And the number of attacks are going up actually.
SEC. RUMSFELD: That's probably true. It is also probably true that our data's better, and we're categorizing more things as attacks. A random round can be an attack and -- all the way up to killing 50 people some place. So you've got a whole fruit bowl of different things -- a banana and an apple and an orange.
MR. WOODWARD: But somebody said up to 900 attacks within one week last month.
SEC. RUMSFELD: I can't validate that. I'd have to go back and look.
MR. WOODWARD: I mean, that's unexploded IEDs, that's counted as an attack; detonated IEDs, close engagements, standoff attacks and attacks on Iraqi authorities.
SEC. RUMSFELD: What do you suppose how many things of those character occur in countries that aren't at war in a given week?
MR. WOODWARD: I've heard you --
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